Richard Leslie
2008-12-25 03:50:12 UTC
Dear Admins,
Request for Discussion - Newshosting.com - Highwinds-Media.com
Since 11-16-2008 complaints to Newshosting and/or Highwinds-Media
concerning the abuse posted through simonconsulting.at of usenet
groups have gone ignored. Both Newshosting and Highwinds seem
unwilling to
address this ongoing abuse.
Simonconsulting.at had never responded to any complaints.
Newshosting and Highwinds-Media were contacted as the upstream
provider because of this issue.
Note:
Simonconsulting.at is both the usent provider and web hosting ISP for
the posting site in question. (fets.com)
Responses from Highwinds and Newshosting:
[Ticket #664879] [11-17-08]
Thank you for contacting Highwinds Abuse. The post in question was
not posted by one of our customers. You will need to contact the
Usenet provider of the poster indicated in the "X-Complaints-To"
section of the header. Please refrain from sending us complaints
that do not concern one of our customers.
Thank you,
Highwinds Abuse Department
[Ticket #669988] [11-24-08]
Thank you for contacting Newshosting Support. The posts in question
did not originate from one of our customers. You will need to
contact the Usenet provider of the poster. This information can be
found in the 'X-Complaints-To' portion of the headers you have sent.
Thank you,
Newshosting Abuse Department
[Ticket #669991] [11-24-08]
Thank you for contacting Highwinds Abuse. The posts in question were
not posted by a customer of ours. You will need to contact the
Usenet provider of the poster. This information can be found in the
'X-Complaints-To' section of the header.
Thank you,
Highwinds Abuse Department
[Ticket #672493] [11-25-08]
Again, the post in question did not originate from any of our
customers. You need to contact the provider of the poster, which
again, WE ARE NOT. If you continue to Spam us with false complaints
all further emails from you will be rejected.
Thank you,
Highwinds Abuse Department
[Ticket #672493] [11-25-08]
Out of curiosity, what correspondences have you received from Simon
Consulting when trying to contact their abuse department? We can not
take individual complaints concerning another company's customers.
However, if Simon Consulting is not responding and taking the
appropriate action they should be, we can consult with them
concerning their lack of handling abuse issues properly. Please
provide us with any correspondences you have had with Simon
Consulting so that we can investigate the matter. Please include any
tickets numbers.
Thank you,
Highwinds Abuse Department
Response to this ticket was that simonconsulting had never responded.
On 11-28-08 Otto J Simon responded to a report sent in:
Dear Richard Leslie,
After reviewing FETS' postings, we consider them as fully legit and
don't think they are spam. That means we will not take any further
action. We are also asking you to stop reporting to us this kind of
Usenet content.
Kind regards,
Otto J. Simon
I then received the following from Brad through Highwinds-Media:
[Ticket #672493] [12-01-08]
Hello. We spoke with Simon Consulting as they are the ones in which
you need to send your complaints. They said that the content is
legit. If you need any further information, you will need to contact
them directly. This will be our last correspondence regarding your
complaints.
Thanks,
Brad
As of 12-07-08 I am no longer receiving auto-akn from either
Newshosting / Highwinds, it would appear that I'm being routed to
dev/nul for any correspondence to them.
I have submitted reports for other abuses not related to this issue
with the same negative response.
I believe that nothing will be done unless pressure is applied from
several sources in the internet community.
Respectfully submitted,
Richard Leslie
Request for Discussion - Newshosting.com - Highwinds-Media.com
Since 11-16-2008 complaints to Newshosting and/or Highwinds-Media
concerning the abuse posted through simonconsulting.at of usenet
groups have gone ignored. Both Newshosting and Highwinds seem
unwilling to
address this ongoing abuse.
Simonconsulting.at had never responded to any complaints.
Newshosting and Highwinds-Media were contacted as the upstream
provider because of this issue.
Note:
Simonconsulting.at is both the usent provider and web hosting ISP for
the posting site in question. (fets.com)
Responses from Highwinds and Newshosting:
[Ticket #664879] [11-17-08]
Thank you for contacting Highwinds Abuse. The post in question was
not posted by one of our customers. You will need to contact the
Usenet provider of the poster indicated in the "X-Complaints-To"
section of the header. Please refrain from sending us complaints
that do not concern one of our customers.
Thank you,
Highwinds Abuse Department
[Ticket #669988] [11-24-08]
Thank you for contacting Newshosting Support. The posts in question
did not originate from one of our customers. You will need to
contact the Usenet provider of the poster. This information can be
found in the 'X-Complaints-To' portion of the headers you have sent.
Thank you,
Newshosting Abuse Department
[Ticket #669991] [11-24-08]
Thank you for contacting Highwinds Abuse. The posts in question were
not posted by a customer of ours. You will need to contact the
Usenet provider of the poster. This information can be found in the
'X-Complaints-To' section of the header.
Thank you,
Highwinds Abuse Department
[Ticket #672493] [11-25-08]
Again, the post in question did not originate from any of our
customers. You need to contact the provider of the poster, which
again, WE ARE NOT. If you continue to Spam us with false complaints
all further emails from you will be rejected.
Thank you,
Highwinds Abuse Department
[Ticket #672493] [11-25-08]
Out of curiosity, what correspondences have you received from Simon
Consulting when trying to contact their abuse department? We can not
take individual complaints concerning another company's customers.
However, if Simon Consulting is not responding and taking the
appropriate action they should be, we can consult with them
concerning their lack of handling abuse issues properly. Please
provide us with any correspondences you have had with Simon
Consulting so that we can investigate the matter. Please include any
tickets numbers.
Thank you,
Highwinds Abuse Department
Response to this ticket was that simonconsulting had never responded.
On 11-28-08 Otto J Simon responded to a report sent in:
Dear Richard Leslie,
After reviewing FETS' postings, we consider them as fully legit and
don't think they are spam. That means we will not take any further
action. We are also asking you to stop reporting to us this kind of
Usenet content.
Kind regards,
Otto J. Simon
I then received the following from Brad through Highwinds-Media:
[Ticket #672493] [12-01-08]
Hello. We spoke with Simon Consulting as they are the ones in which
you need to send your complaints. They said that the content is
legit. If you need any further information, you will need to contact
them directly. This will be our last correspondence regarding your
complaints.
Thanks,
Brad
As of 12-07-08 I am no longer receiving auto-akn from either
Newshosting / Highwinds, it would appear that I'm being routed to
dev/nul for any correspondence to them.
I have submitted reports for other abuses not related to this issue
with the same negative response.
I believe that nothing will be done unless pressure is applied from
several sources in the internet community.
Respectfully submitted,
Richard Leslie